tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5078331897510807942.post1216659492311888435..comments2023-12-28T01:11:49.188-08:00Comments on Cum Lazaro: Enoch was right and doing something about IslamLazarushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09716412032074416331noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5078331897510807942.post-55263037882249826422014-09-01T02:17:27.176-07:002014-09-01T02:17:27.176-07:00I suspect you're spam (apologies if you're...I suspect you're spam (apologies if you're not!) but you're polite, flattering spam. Tributes are always welcome from any quarter.Lazarushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716412032074416331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5078331897510807942.post-87605954644305630802014-08-31T06:06:59.627-07:002014-08-31T06:06:59.627-07:00thanks for this post i really like this post.thanks for this post i really like this post.articleshttp://wwinfoblog.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5078331897510807942.post-46799868581158640522014-08-27T03:05:43.936-07:002014-08-27T03:05:43.936-07:001) On Churchill's view of Islam. Well, it'...1) On Churchill's view of Islam. Well, it's here if anyone's interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_River_War . The straightforward answer is that I was referring to Powell's views which have attained almost mythical status in the UK. There are of course a large number of other views about Islam which I haven't tackled, some right, some wrong. I see no reason to think that Churchill's are particularly insightful, although I was struck by:<br /><br />'To this end the Dervishes, from the Mahdi and the Khalifa downwards, have been loaded with every variety of abuse and charged with all conceivable crimes. This may be very comforting to philanthropic persons at home; but when an army in the field becomes imbued with the idea that the enemy are vermin who cumber the earth, instances of barbarity may easily be the outcome.' <br /><br />2) On the Quranic imperative to take over the world. Let's assume that there is straightforwardly an essential aspect of Islam that makes it politically expansionist. (I don't believe that, but let's grant it for the sake of argument.) a) We've lived with that for almost 1500 years. We have no reason to get into a panic now. b) Within that putative drive to expansionism, 'Christian' powers have (at various times) allied themselves, submitted to, worked with, ignored and fought 'Islamic' powers. Even accepting that assumption that Islam is politically expansionist, the practical response to that long term expansionism lies wide open. c) I assume you're Catholic. For us, the supernatural end of life is more important than the natural. In particular, we are bound to follow the teachings on just war. In general, the rule 'salus populi suprema lex' cannot be the highest rule: there are some actions which, even if they were effective, cannot be performed. So, given those parameters, what would be the most effective and morally licit way of 'doing something' about Islam within the UK?<br /><br />3) Within the UK, the prime immediate danger to Catholicism is from hard secularism, not Islam, and Muslims have been allies not enemies (see my post eg http://cumlazaro.blogspot.com/2011/11/killing-care-bears-and-destroying.html ). In suggesting 'something must be done', the something that is actually on the table in the UK (rather than in some ideal world) is a suppression of natural law teaching common to Islam and Catholicism http://www.christian.org.uk/news/secularists-trojan-horse-response-not-enough/<br /><br />4) I'd be tempted to add something about the more positive attitude to Islam in Nostra Aetate and the teachings of St John Paul the Great http://www.asianews.it/news-en/John-Paul-II-and-the-Muslims-21435.html . Space (and a suspicion that these are sources you might not heed) exclude this possibility.Lazarushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716412032074416331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5078331897510807942.post-32697714422780652462014-08-26T16:14:03.182-07:002014-08-26T16:14:03.182-07:00Of course he was right. Christian (even residual) ...Of course he was right. Christian (even residual) civilisation and the Koranic imperative to take over the world is a serious requirement of all Muslims and many would acknowledge that if asked. This is oil and water - why not also mention Churchill's view of Islam?Lepantohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487748842744745860noreply@blogger.com